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Average Rankings For Dodgers Top Prospects


Prospect Ranking season has almost run it’s course and that means that rankings are generally set (with the exception of Dodgers Digest and True Blue LA) for the upcoming season so most Dodger fans know who’s worth paying attention to this upcoming minor league season.

The system has seen some impressive gains since new ownership took over as 9 prospects got national recognition in one way or another from the 4 major publications:

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Having 9 guys get recognized says something about the strength of the system, and *hopefully* these players will not only progress but can be viable pieces in July when the Dodgers need help. I’ve decided to write about their upcoming season to see what fans should want to see from these players.

Corey Seager

Average ranking: 1

The Seager hype has reached new levels. Cal Ripken said on Friday that he expects Corey to contend for the 2016 MVP which would be an incredible feat in his age 21 season. Last season he skyrocketed up 2 levels, hitting .375/.407/.675 in the Southern League and adjusted nicely and he hit .278/.332/.451 after a slow start in his first taste of AAA. We know what happened in September also, he absolutely tore up big league pitching to the tune of a .337/.425/.561 line, displacing the aging Jimmy Rollins. The expectations are enormous, and the pessimism regarding prospects never wavers no matter the star the #1 prospect in baseball has, an infielder in the Dodger organization will be compared to Andy LaRoche until he’s not. But #1 overall prospects that are close to the majors almost always become good major leaguers. A first division regular would be a huge step up from what the Dodgers lacked at the SS position last year, and the upside is so much better. At the end of the day it’s about upgrades, and Corey Seager, even baby faced Seager is a near lock to perform better than Jimmy Rollins, and if he does that his season would be a success.

Julio Urias

Average ranking: 4.75

Here is where the takes get hot. We have been talking about Julio Urias since 2013 when he was a 16 year old who burst onto the professional scene, pitching 54.1 innings, striking out 67 batters and limiting Low-A hitters to a 2.48 ERA. Last season he made big strides in his 13 starts in AA, but a midseason eye surgery that limited his market when he first signed kept him for 2 months. He struggled mightily against AAA pitching when he was called up on the last day of August, he gave up 9 earned runs in 4.1 innings pitched, walking 6 in his 2 games started. He wasn’t as sharp coming back from the surgery and I can certainly understand considering the eye surgery was disruptive to an otherwise positive season.

Not that the timing of the surgery was excusable or an excuse for potentially poor planning regarding his medical situation, but that’s another post for another time. Julio Urias is ready to get big league hitters out now, his stuff is that good, while I suspect his minor league numbers are inflated by the simple fact that he has a real changeup, the numbers are very good. He might make his debut before he turns 20 years old and the comparisons are special for a player of his caliber.

But as far as expectations go? 2016 is going to be a pivotal year in terms of his development, he’s progressed as far as a teenage pitcher can progress without actually proving he can start at a major league level. This is to say that Urias has been (rightly) babied his entire professional career. Two regimes have brought him along slowly, and it’s enlightening to see that the way Colletti treated pitching prospects is at the opposite end of how Friedman treated pitching prospects as far as aggressiveness with regards to development, but the similarity with Urias has been to protect his arm.

Again, this is the correct move with him, but bringing him along slowly means that Urias is probably not going to be able to throw a major league starters workload this season, and probably not the season after that. For comparison, Blake Snell tossed 134 innings pitched in the upper minors in 2015, Steven Matz (despite missing significant time with a torn muscle) threw 155.2 innings all of last season, which is only 66.9 innings fewer than Urias’ entire minor league career. Lucas Giolito threw 117.0 innings all throughout last season while that wasn’t much more than Urias’ 2015 total, crossing the 100 innings pitched milestone is still important for a young prospect. Heck Urias has gotten more than his fair share of Felix Hernandez comparisons but Hernandez’s arm was big league ready at age 19. King Felix threw 69 innings as a 17 year old, 149.1 innings as an 18 year old, and 172 innings as a 19 year old. The situations are very different.

And lets be fair, Urias was on his way to cracking the 100 innings pitched mark, but that’s why the eye surgery was so debilitating to his development this past season, we have no idea how his arm will hold up after hitting that mark. Elite talents can get over these issues because, well, they’re elite talents but instead of hoping that Urias will be the Felix Hernandez answer for 2016 is ignoring Julio’s relative inability to throw lots of innings.

Jose De Leon

Average ranking: 33.75

De Leon is probably the most important pitching asset the Dodgers have this year save for Kenta Maeda. Armed with a deadly changeup, he’s reinvented himself from the college pitcher he was and has become a top 100 prospect. in 7 starts at Rancho, he posted a 7.25 strikeout to walk ratio, posting a 1.67 ERA. He was just mauling HI-A hitting, as one might expect from a college pitcher with an above average changeup,  he went to AA and held his own as a pitcher slightly younger than the league average. He posted a 3.64 ERA with a 3.62 K/BB ratio in his 16 starts. You’ll note that ESPN’s rank is the outlier for De Leon, it’s more than 30 spots lower than the next outlet, and the reasons generally make sense. His command did suffer when he faced advanced competition, and i’m struggling to see if that’s because he tired at the end (John Sickels wrote him up and said that his velocity took a dip towards the end of the season so maybe that’s one explanation). But a drop in command is a drop in command and it’s a bit concerning to say the least, his BB/9 rose to 3.4 per 9 and his home run allowed per 9 rose to 1.3 per 9 despite being in a more forgiving environment. The good news was that it was his first taste against advanced competition, so next year he’ll get the chance to prove that his crazy K/BB numbers in the low minors were legit. Anyways, he’s the most likely pitcher in the minor leagues to be a long term solution as soon as 2016 so keep an eye out for a midseason promotion to the big league club for him.

Grant Holmes

Average ranking: 61.25

His average ranking means that he progressed overall from his average 2015 rankings, a good sign for a prospect as young as him. He proved that he could get Low-A hitters out despite being 3 years younger than the league average, a 3.14 ERA is no joke even if it’s a pitchers haven, he struck out 10.2 batters per 9 innings and this alone has him as a premier arm in one of the top systems in baseball. He also threw 103.1 innings as a 19 year old, a pretty impressive mark for a Low-A pitcher, meaning that he could become a workhorse pretty soon. The only knock on him is the walks allowed. Last season he issued 4.7 walks per 9 innings, entirely too many men reach base against him, his home run figure was okay (0.5 per 9 allowed) but the walks just killed him. This isn’t unexpected from a young pitching prospect, someone might point to Clayton Kershaw as a comp for bad control numbers, but Kershaw is definitely more of the outlier.

The good news for Holmes is that everything else about him is so good that if he lowers the walks given up to somewhere in the mid 3’s next season, he’ll skyrocket up the prospect charts. That seems to be where Baseball Prospectus is on him. The potential that he doesn’t start in the big leagues is higher than one would like it to be with Holmes, but he’s answered almost everything else about his game.

Every prospect beyond this point is incomplete because there isn’t a unanimous top 100 guy past Seager, Urias, De Leon, and Holmes.

Yadier Alvarez

Alvarez is such an enigma, he signed for 16 million dollars out of Cuba this past Summer and blew up during one of Yoan Moncada’s workouts last season. He never played in Cuba’s highest league, when he did play baseball in Cuba, but he started throwing 97 in a workout with a plus slider and a “surprisingly good” changeup. The best complement for Alvarez came via Kiley McDaniel who actually works for the Braves now when he said Alvarez would rank 57th in his top prospect rankings in a fangraphs series last season. Alvarez has done nothing to discount his prospect star so his baseball prospectus ranking seems fair, though he’s played so little that I understand why he wasn’t ranked at all.

Expectations for him should be a successful start to his pro-career. I’m excited to see how he does with professional instruction.

Yusniel Diaz

Diaz is the Cuban prospect that would have been comparable to a 1st round talent in the domestic draft. He looks to be an exciting member of the organization, and Ben Badler had this to say about him

Diaz was a rookie with Industriales this past 2014-15 season in Serie Nacional. Diaz ranked sixth in the league in batting average, hitting .348/.447/.440 in 65 games with 36 walks, 33 strikeouts and seven stolen bases in 15 attempts. He almost certainly would have been the league’s rookie of the year had he not left the country soon after the season ended

Similarly with Alvarez, hoping he has a successful first season in the states will establish him as a top 100 prospect. It was curious to see him make the top 101 list for Baseball Prospectus but be omitted from the Baseball America list, but it’s difficult to fault without seeing him play domestically yet.

Kenta Maeda

Baseball America is the only outlet that ranked Maeda, but they’re consistent in ranking guys like that (they ranked Tanaka and Olivera the past 2 winters). Maeda has had a long offseason, and we all know about the health issues with him and the incentive laden contract, but he had a very successful and durable Japanese career posting a 2.39 ERA in 1509.2 innings there. Maeda might not be the most exciting addition to the rotation, however Hisashi Iwakuma and Hyun-Jin Ryu both shattered expectations coming over from the Japanese League and the Korean League, respectively. These two are great examples because they were thought of as marginal talents coming over to the states, Maeda, like Iwakuma and Ryu has impeccable command, and that alone is good enough to get guys out in the majors.

This isn’t to say that Maeda is going to step up and become a star member of the rotation, but he’s probably a mid rotation starter if he stays healthy and that’s very valuable considering the contract he signed. If he’s an average starter for 170 innings, the signing is a huge win, anything more is gravy.

Cody Bellinger

Bellinger was an over slot selection in the 2013 draft that is totally wacky. The team selected a “safe college starter” in Chris Anderson with the 18th pick, then selected current Philly Tom Windle with their 2nd round pick, and then selected current Cincinnati Red, Brandon Dixon with their 3rd round pick. It wasn’t until the 4th round that they got a rising prospect in Bellinger. Cody slugged 30 home runs in 544 plate appearances, that’s impressive even if he did his bidding on the equivalent of the moon. Not to mention his defense has been described as major league ready by several outlets.

The one thing that fans should want to see from Bellinger is whether his relatively high strikeout figures (27.6%) are a part of him as a player or just him attempting to mash in a league that was made for young slugging 1b’s. Hoping he can hold his own against advanced pitching is the main question about his 2016 season, his prospect star is certainly on the rise though.

Alex Verdugo

Verdugo was a pitcher once upon a time, and many teams thought the Dodgers were crazy for selecting him as an outfielder. Verdugo’s 2015 began miserably, for the first month and a half he owned one of the worst lines in the minor leagues .220/.260/.298. Apparently his swing was out of whack and after a midseason adjustment, he hit .354/.382/.515 the rest of the way, including a .385/.406/.659 line in the Cal League. You’ll note that despite the huge swings in production, the difference between his average and his on base percentage is minuscule, he still only had a 4.3% walk percentage the entire season, that’s something he should work on. Or if he’s going to keep that low walk rate, his strikeout percentage should be just as low, and a 12.5 K% is very Giantsy.

So the goal of Verdugo’s 2016 is to maintain his low K/BB ratio, any rise in striking out hopefully is accompanied with a rise in walks which is probably to be expected as he climbs the minor league ladder. If he does so, expect him to be a unanimous top 100 guy by midseason.

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36 thoughts on “Average Rankings For Dodgers Top Prospects

  1. Seager is the starting shortstop. He’s going nowhere. I don’t consider him a prospect anymore. But that’s me.

    Urias moves up. And at 23 I think De Leon is very close, maybe even ready. Btw, the Jose De Leon above sent me to the Dbacks infielder.

  2. Excellent write up Adrian. You are not an idiot! Someday, I’ll explain why some are and then everyone will understand. I’ll give you a hint: It has to do with prevarication!

  3. I have griped a number of times about the Dodgers not signing Moncada instead of all the players they wound up signing after last July. Maybe FAZ was right based on this from Keith Law.

    BA rates Yoan Moncada of the Red Sox the third-best prospect in baseball, whereas Law ranks him at No. 17, noting that Moncada might not have the power that was expected of him when the Red Sox signed him last year. (courtesy of MLB Trade Rumors)

    1. One point concerning a fine article: Seager did not actually jump two levels last year. In 2014 he started in A-ball and jumped to Double-A. Last year, despite his fine showing at Chattanooga and in the Arizona Fall League, management decided to send him back to AA to “make him a better person.” Hmmm. Maybe someone remembered what happened when they rushed Adrian Beltre to the bigs too soon. But if not for all the injuries, I think the plan was to hold him back for this year.

    2. Thanks for the comment! Even so I would absolutely rather have Moncada than the collection of prospects the dodgers got, (Alvarez/Diaz/Estevez/any of the other guys like Lazarito) even if Moncada doesn’t have 20 home run power

  4. Everybody is excited to see what Urias and De Leon will do as they progress to their destiny as members of the LAD rotation. Me, I am really looking to see what Grant Holmes will do. I am assuming that he starts at Rancho, but will get the De Leon look and get promoted to Tulsa if he has any success at High A. That puts him on the fast track. If he continues to develop his control, I would think that he has a shot at a summer callup in 2017, at 21. That’s how 1st round draft picks are supposed to move through the organization.

    I think Bellinger will start at AA and see if he can handle the better pitching. He gets his first invite to big league camp, so he is getting the fast track treatment as a reward for 2015. Cody started well at Rancho, and FAZ let him struggle through his early summer slump, and then finish strong. Players need to fight through adversity. I think Cody has the ability, he just needs to continue with the confidence building. He has time to mature, AGon has three years remaining on his contract.

    I am hoping that Diaz and Alveraz get pushed some this year in the States. They need something positive from all of those Cuban signings.

  5. AGon’s final year is ’18. Bellinger can step right in.

    Holmes is indeed an interesting prospect. Im more interested in De Leon now because he is now. Age 23. Let’s see what he’s got.

  6. Hell I went to AA and I know I’m a much better person, just ask my ex wife…
    Heading to Las Vegas Wed. for a lil MLB preseason wagering… It always has my wife puzzled and she will ask “WHY” every year… #1 is because I can and #2 I simply love the game of baseball. You won’t see me at a craps table or doubling down somewhere, but you’ll find me somewhere in an almost zen like state staring at MLB big board… Dodger $$$… A lil Cubbie $$$ money…
    When the Dodgers moved from Ebbets to the Memorial Coliseum in 58, though painful as it was to see baseball played there, the seeds were planted… Although my idol Roy Campanella was missing, somehow Wally Moon took away a lil of that loss for me…

  7. Hell I went to AA and I know I’m a much better person, just ask my ex wife…
    Heading to Las Vegas Wed. for a lil MLB preseason wagering… It always has my wife puzzled and she will ask “WHY” every year… #1 is because I can and #2 I simply love the game of baseball. You won’t see me at a craps table or doubling down somewhere, but you’ll find me somewhere in an almost zen like state staring at MLB big board… Dodger $$$… A lil Cubbie $$$ money… Life is good and Vin is right around the corner!!!
    When the Dodgers moved from Ebbets to the Memorial Coliseum in 58, though painful as it was to see baseball played there, the seeds were planted… Although my idol Roy Campanella was missing, somehow Wally Moon took away a lil of that loss for me…
    Hey I might be rambling but it beats running for a Websters or getting pissed…

  8. Badger I think Deleon has a chance with to leave Camelback on the 25… The kid is electric.. As the season goes on, with expected results from Urias, Holmes and Cotton, trade possibilities are endless as teams suffer setbacks… It’s been a long time since we’ve had the upper hand in negotiating with teams…

    1. Badger wanted to trade De Leon for Hamels (as if Philly would have done that without Urias, Seager or Pederson). I have been saying what you are saying since last spring.

  9. USA Today just projected Giants to win 90, Dodgers to win 88 games this year. Their comment: Dodgers can’t have 35 guys on the active roster, or something to that effect.

    Organizational depth is great, but need the best 25 guys to win now.

    1. Last season it seemed like we had 40 guys on the active roster — granted you’d miss some of them if you blinked

  10. In 2015, USA Today had the Dodgers or the Nationals going to the World Series, so I would believe everything they say.

    1. And you had the Dodgers. We all did. Why listen to any of us?

      Maybe the key is to pick someone else this year. I’ll go first. Cubs and Jays.

    2. The point is that we know that the Giants have improved themselves, adding Cueto (assuming that his elbow is sound), the Shark (2014 version) and Span (if his hip is OK). The Dodgers lost Greinke and that reverses any improvements that they have made this year – plus they added a negative, JOE BLANTON.

      So———The Giants are expected to win more than last year and the Dodgers are expected to win less – at least according to USA Today and the Vegas sports book.

  11. Memo to K&Z —

    Please, no more injured players or players recovering from medical issues to be acquired via signings or trades or walk-on.

    Thank you, AnewBlueDay

    1. Thanks Mark, I’m going to be changing the design, but I want to see what the finished product looks like first before I stick with it. I can’t make up my mind though, I have about 5 or 6 designs in mind

  12. We are going to witness a vastly improved offense this season. The Dodgers are going be clutch, better than we’ve seen in years. Roberts won’t let the poison live long and the energy will. Many times I commented about there being undisclosed poison in the clubhouse and how the team knew how to hit baseballs and suddenly the whole lineup sucked in unison. Lately I heard on ‘Intentional Talk’ Rose say they were told things about Puig that were successfully kept mum to the public. So Mark’s title of knucklehead towards Puig was being kind to him. If that sort of shit continues I hope they rat-pack his ass ‘code red’ style. If in fact he was completely the reason for all the discontent it’ll be likely he’s elsewhere when his value rises. It’d be nice if we were brought up to speed on some of the issues as we devote quite a bit of concern. I may of been wrongly blaming Mattingly if Puig was so unmanageable, though it’s a big part of the job. So if all that is so, kinda have to give Mattingly some credit for keeping his cool when there’s someone making you look so bad. Kill the bad energy!

  13. This is the cleanest I’ve seen anywhere, Scott! Ultra HD! Now I’m gonna have to sharpen my typing skills so I’m not like tennis shoes while wearing a suit. Great job you’re doing brother!

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