The Boys in Blue took the rubber match against the “hated ones” last night to improve their lead to six games in the NL West and decrease their magic number to five. The Dodgers tonight will begin a four game series against the Colorado Rockies. Making his return to the mound tonight will be Brett Anderson.
Game time 710pm SNLA
The lasting image I have of Brett Anderson is when do dove for a ball and sprained his wrist in the process. His record this season is 0-2 with an impressive 24.75 ERA.
I’m not trying to make light of the subject because I really hope Anderson does well tonight. Tyler Chatwood 11-9 4.13 ERA will be going for the Rockies.
Dodger lineup:
Utley 2B
Toles LF
Seager SS
Gonzalez 1B
Grandal C
Reddick RF
Pederson CF
Kendrick 3B
Anderson P
Anderson has been battling a blister issue since August 20th. Anderson has yielded eleven runs in four innings this season. In his career against Colorado, Anderson is 1-0 with a 4.43 ERA in four starts.
The Vin Scully farewell tour will continue this weekend. The Dodgers are down to ten games left on the season. These are the final four of the regular season. The Dodgers then have three against the San Diego Padres and three against the Giants on the road. The Dodgers most likely will start the NLDS against the Washington Nationals on the road to start the playoffs.
This is how the Dodgers lineup had fared against Chatwood.
| BATTER | AB | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SO | AVG | OBP | SLG | OPS |
| Austin Barnes | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | .000 | .000 | .000 | .000 |
| Andre Ethier | 18 | 7 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 3 | .389 | .400 | .556 | .956 |
| Adrian Gonzalez | 22 | 6 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | .273 | .360 | .409 | .769 |
| Yasmani Grandal | 4 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 1 | 2 | .500 | .600 | 1.000 | 1.600 |
| Enrique Hernandez | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | .000 | .200 | .000 | .200 |
| Howie Kendrick | 8 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | .375 | .375 | .375 | .750 |
| Joc Pederson | 4 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | .500 | .600 | .750 | 1.350 |
| Yasiel Puig | 5 | 2 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | .400 | .400 | .800 | 1.200 |
| Josh Reddick | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | .000 | .333 | .000 | .333 |
| Carlos Ruiz | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | .000 | .000 | .000 | .000 |
| Corey Seager | 8 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 2 | .250 | .400 | .625 | 1.025 |
| Trayce Thompson | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | .000 | .000 | .000 | .000 |
| Justin Turner | 10 | 2 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | .200 | .200 | .400 | .600 |
| Chase Utley | 12 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | .250 | .308 | .250 | .558 |
| Scott Van Slyke | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | .000 | .333 | .000 | .333 |
| Totals | 106 | 29 | 8 | 1 | 2 | 8 | 9 | 20 | .274 | .345 | .425 | .769 |
It seems as though Adrian Gonzalez, Howie Kendrick, Yasmani Grandal, and Joc Pederson have had the most success against Chatwood. Andrew Toles and Josh Reddick have never faced him. Chatwood is 1-2 with a 4.00 ERA in three previous outings vs the Dodgers this season. Chatwood usually attacks the strike-zone with a first pitch fastball. He also has a curve and a change-up. I’m thinking he will use those pitches to keep the Dodgers bats quiet. The Dodgers crush fastballs.
This is the Rockies Lineup:
Blackmon CF
LeMahieu 2B
Arenado 3B
Gonzalez RF
Hundley C
Dahl LF
Parra 1B
Descalso SS
Chatwood P
Anderson’s best pitch is his slider. He also throws two-plane breaking ball he can paint on the corner versus right-handed batters and sweep away from lefties in the 79-81 mph range. His lack of velocity can be attacked. How have the Rockies fared against him.
| BATTER | AB | H | 2B | 3B | HR | RBI | BB | SO | AVG | OBP | SLG | OPS |
| Cristhian Adames | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | .000 | .500 | .000 | .500 |
| Nolan Arenado | 10 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 4 | 0 | 0 | .500 | .500 | .800 | 1.300 |
| Charlie Blackmon | 10 | 4 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 3 | .400 | .500 | .600 | 1.100 |
| Dustin Garneau | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | .000 | .000 | .000 | .000 |
| Carlos Gonzalez | 10 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 4 | .100 | .182 | .100 | .282 |
| Nick Hundley | 4 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | .250 | .250 | .250 | .500 |
| DJ LeMahieu | 10 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | .400 | .400 | .400 | .800 |
| Gerardo Parra | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | .000 | .000 | .000 | .000 |
| Ryan Raburn | 7 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 5 | 0 | 2 | .143 | .143 | .571 | .714 |
| Mark Reynolds | 4 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | .250 | .400 | .250 | .650 |
| Totals | 63 | 17 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 11 | 4 | 12 | .270 | .324 | .397 | .720 |
As you can see Nolan Arenado, DJ LeMahieu, and Charlie Blackmon seem to know how to attack Anderson. On the season the Dodgers are 8-7 against the Rockies. So the Rockies play the Dodgers tough. Come out for the final four home games of the regular season and Vin’s final lap around Dodgers stadium this weekend.
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Will he lower or raise his stellar ERA tonight? Will he fall off the mound for the third game in a row? How many infield hits will Colorado have because he can’t field his position? He used to play there so they know him well and usually bunt on him. How many times will he fail at trying to bunt a runner over? All good prop bets for an Anderson game. I’ll be rooting for him though.
After last night, I can breathe a little easier. Now, I am focusing on knocking the giants out of the playoffs on the final series. That would be very sweet. Of course, I hope they are out earlier, but I doubt that will be the case. I might have called up Logan Bawcom to pitch in this series rather than Anderson/Kazmir. I think there is still roster room. It must be a playoff rehearsal situation. I think to take 1-3 would be good. Lots of runs. Arenado leading the league in HRs and LaMaheu leading in average. Both will be trying to add. Why not?
I didn’t realize it is a 4 game series. 2-4 would be good. 1-4 might get scary again.
I rather Brock Stewart was pitching.
Stewart and Urias are not viable given how close they are to their innings limit.
I don’t get the confusion here. This is a really smart FO, they wouldn’t be pitching Kazmir and Anderson for shits and giggles.
The schedule, blisters and Kershaw’s health all necessitate a fourth starter. The team needs to find one.
Bluto
I haven’t heard or read anything about Stewart’s innning limit.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/dodgers/la-sp-dodgers-rotation-20160920-snap-story.html
The primary candidates to garner that Game 4 start appear to be Kershaw, even so; rookie right-hander Ross Stripling, who’s pushing up against his stated innings limit; and left-hander Brett Anderson, who will return Thursday from a monthlong bout with a blister.
There are many less-likely options. Rookie right-handers Brock Stewart and Jose De Leon could, to varying levels of conceivability, earn it, although their workloads are a concern. The Dodgers have said rookie left-hander Julio Urias is shut down from starting, but have avoided assigning a firm cap to his innings. Manager Dave Roberts said Tuesday that Brandon McCarthy could start one of the club’s concluding 11 games, which would appear to make him a candidate. Until he developed a blister, Scott Kazmir was ramping up his return efforts from thoracic spine inflammation.
Stripling may be the most plausible candidate. Carrying a 4.12 earned-run average, he has pitched capably, and because the Dodgers stashed him in Arizona earlier this season, he has innings remaining.
“It’s something that you’re hopeful for and think about a little bit, but it’s also something you try to keep out of your mind,” he said. “I know that Brock Stewart, myself, Urias, we’re all on innings limits, and we’re all pretty much there, so we’re not really sure what they’re thinking, because they don’t really tell us. They just put us in the bullpen and say we’re gonna put you there for a while. We’re not really sure what to expect, all three of us. Throw De Leon in there, too.”
Hell. they could have piggy backed the two of them in the same game. I doubt either can go much past 4. Kazmir could if he’s relatively healthy I guess.
Blu to
Thanks for that link.
I really have no idea why they would start Anderson again.
He isn’t going to be the fourth pitcher in post season, no matter what he does in this game.
His performance last year in the post season, was terrible.
And he won’t be with team next year.
And Kazmir isn’t going to pitch in the post season either.
But he will be back, so I could see why they are giving him a chance.
And really there is no big need for a fourth pitcher in the post season anyways.
Wrong.
4th pitcher is a necessity given blisters, pitching and games schedules.
I didn’t think about blisters.
But Anderson has already given his performance in the post season, and it wasn’t good.
And Kazmir has also already given his performance this year, and he is one of the most unstable pitchers, I have ever saw.
He can’t be counted on, to make a good start.
And I don’t think even one decent performance by these two pitchers, in one start, is going to get them a start, in the post season.
And because we haven’t made it that far, in the post season, the last few years, I didn’t think beyond that.
I know when Ryu was ok, only he, and Kershaw and Greinke, started games, in the first round of the post season, in 2014.
But hopefully, we will go much further this year.
MJ,
That is the only point worth noting unless ‘rest’ is the real reason to give him a start. I can’t muster much confidence in this pitcher.
Let’s just hope the Rockies first three hitters don’t bunt like they did last year against Anderson.
I have ZERO confidence in Anderson, and it is well deserved. Why this slug is pitching at all unless it is to set up Kershaw for next weekends series in SF is beyond me. Pitch Stripling. Stewart, any one but Anderson…..If he proves me wrong fine, but if not, well I told you so…
The guy is a decent enough pitcher when healthy but thrusting him into the playoffs seems like a bad move.
I’ve never seen an MLB pitcher who can’t beat a runner to 1st base. Even Bartolo Colon can beat the batters to 1st.
I do like Toles hitting 2nd.
My lord, did u see Anderson try running to cover 1b on that ground ball to Agone? He was sprinting, and he was slow as all hell. Worst athleticism from a professional athlete I’ve seen in a long time.
But as far as our need for a 4th starter vs Washington: barring a sweep, somebody has to start game 4. Who will that be? The guy recovering from the disk issue on short rest? The guy with the blister on short rest? We HAVE to have somebody(s) for a game 4. I hope to God it’s not Anderson or Kazmir, but I do see the reasoning behind letting those 2 pitch today and tomorrow, to see if they could go in a possible Game 4, which would be most likely at Dodger Stadium.
Bobby
Why exactly.
We aready paid him 15.8 million dollars, why do we have to let him pitch?
That should be go away money!
And did you like Reddick’s newest error?
So, why would they start Anderson with the dismay that it causes some commenters at a blog site, who are maybe rabid fans that think nothing but Dodgers 24/7 (that’s not me)?
Oh, I don’t know, but maybe his pitching coach at OKC said he was ready to get out major league batters?
Maybe his manager concurred.
Maybe the Dodgers Farm Director endorsed him.
Maybe the scouts and front office staff took a vote and said “Yeah, he’s ready.”
Maybe people who make their living doing this every day thought it was a good idea?
But, maybe a blogger or a commenter on a message board really knows better than all the professionals.
Yeah, that has to be it!
It’s always amazing to me that the people the furthest removed from something always know better. 😉
Mark
And maybe they don’t know better!
Oh, they most probably do.
Is this the same people that said he was ok in his other two inning games this year, already ?
The very same.
The same guys who put together the bullpen, signed Toles, traded for Hill, traded for Grandal…
And assembled this first place team, the same first place team with a top ranked farm system!
Good come back MJ.
Mark
Even you said no way, when someone asked if he was going to pitch again!
Health-wise I did not think he would!
Bluto
We are talking about Anderson, and I could probably name more players, that were already here too.
No, we’re talking about the people who signed Anderson!
At least I thought we were, if not I am wrong and apologize.
Bluto
I am not talking about the front office.
I am just talking about how I feel about Anderson.
Oh. Apologies on that.
I thought this part of the comment thread was driven by this line:
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After two innings he has given up an infield hit that he couldn’t get to and fell down again. I guess you call what he did a dive and he couldn’t beat a right-handed batter to 1st base.
If Anderson was auditioning for a position on the post play off roster, he has failed. You just as well bring in Stripling, De Leon or Stewart. Anderson will not be with us next year, so what is the point in letting him continue. You might as well give some experience to these young pitchers. I feel the same about Kasmir. However we have him for another three years.
Thank goodness, it is only two more years I believe.
We have Kaz for two more years.
Here’s the thing, when I used to go to Spring Training for two weeks and travel to LA, St. Louis, Chicago, Milwaukee and many other cities and I had access to the dugout and locker rooms, I knew more than I do now. When I had the cell phone numbers of several Dodger employees, I knew more than I knew now.
But, I still didn’t know much.
Now that I have been several years removed from that, I do have a few sources, but I know even less.
Maybe you know more than I do, but I am not close enough to the situation to have a clue. However, the Dodgers pay a lot of money to people who are close to the situation to make these decisions. If you think you know more, you are suffering from grandiose delusions.
What I do know, is that if healthy, Brett Anderson is an excellent #4. I defer to the experts. That’s why I have my opinions on the lineup, but I don’t have much information, so I don’t lose my mind when they play Reddick over Puig or Toles. These guys aren’t stupid!
Mark
Even Ned Colletti said that you don’t know what you are going to get out of these two pitchers.
And Colletti has complemented this front office.
We have watched both of these pitchers, and Anderson did make it through that one year.
But Anderson was terrible in the post season.
And he has only been able to start 30 games in his entire
career twice, and one of those years, was last year.
And Anderson got hurt in the second week of spring training.
And the two times he has pitched at the major league level this year, before tonight, he was a disaster.
What do you expect us to think about these two pitchers?
They are not reliable, one because he gets hurt easy, and the other, is erratic.
And sometimes what a player makes, or politics, play a role on who is played too.
No one is losing there mind, we are just basing this on what we have saw, and common sense.
I can see taking a chance on a pitcher like Hill, because he is special, and might be worth it.
Anderson has only been able to pitch through two seasons, and he has about six or seven years, in his career.
Joc has some of the worst AB’s I’ve ever seen.
I have never been high on JOC, but he hit .178 after the All-Star Game last year while hitting .256 this year. He’s not perfect… but that’s progress. Can he make more progress next year? That is the question….
With the big swing he takes sometimes maybe he will go all Reggie Jackson in the WS.
I still get this stuff via e-mail, but I can’t get access anymore:
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First of all, the Dodgers were paying good money to DeJon Watson, Ned Coletti and Logan White to make all of the decisions and I don’t recall anyone saying that they were the experts, they knew more that we mere fans and to shut the F up and keep our opinions to ourselves.
Now when it is the hallowed boys of the Braintrust, we are supposed to simply accept everything they say and do as if it were holy writ.
For fanboys like bluto, if you challenge the Braintrust you are some kind of idiot. I assume that he didn’t feel the same way about the prior regime even though they too most assuredly knew more than he (or we) did as well.
So yeah – some of the talent evaluators thought that it might be worth a crack to see if Anderson had anything worthwhile for RIGHT NOW (not last year when he was 10 – 9). Even though he has only “pitched” (if you want to call it that) 2 horrible games in the bigs all year, let’s give it a rip.
As I posted on a previous thread, the Dodgers have a chance to overtake the Nats for home field advantage for the 1st round of the playoffs. If they lose 2 games that they could have won giving tryouts to the likes of Anderson and Kazmir (what, no McCarthy? the holy trinity of Braintrust pitchers) then they start the playoffs in DC.
THE DODGERS ARE 20 OVER .500 AT HOME AND NOT VERY GOOD ON THE ROAD.
Not a good decision.
First, Colletti knows way more about baseball than I ever will. That said, he was a failure and is considered a below average GM. That’s a common consensus.
Homefield advantage would be great. So would Hill having pitched the perfect game. But both are of lesser import than winning in the playoffs.
The team needs a 4th starter in the playoffs, and needs to figure out who would best fill that role.
You can make jokes about pitching. You can claim that Colletti is a good GM. You can use sarcasm in odd ways to passively/aggressively denigrate the front office. But you can’t change the fact that they’ve built a good and deep team, nor that they’re making decisions based on winning the playoffs and winning into the future…
They have a better chance of winning in the playoffs if they start at home.
You have no response to that fact.
They have less chance to start at home by starting Anderson tonight.
You have no response to that either.
You are 100% correct that they have a better chance of winning in the playoffs if they start at home.
It’s an even better chance (by far, IMO) if they have the best possible option starting the 4th game.
As to whether if “they have less chance to start at home by starting Anderson tonight.” That’s a counterfactual and not even worth responding to.
“coun·ter·fac·tu·al (koun′tər-făk′cho͞o-əl)
adj.
Running contrary to the facts: “Cold war historiography vividly illustrates how the selection of the counterfactual question to be asked generally anticipates the desired answer” (Timothy Garton Ash).
coun′ter·fac′tu·al n.
American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fifth Edition. Copyright © 2011 by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt Publishing Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt Publishing Company. All rights reserved.”
Really?
Contrary to the facts?
Have you paid attention to tonight’s game?
I meant this part of the definition:
(philosophy) A conditional statement in which the conditional clause is false, as “If I had arrived on time . . .”.
I had to scroll through the comments on this article again to see if there was anything I missed, and nowhere did I see where you were told to shut the F up or were called an idiot. Actually, Bluto’s rhetorical style is direct without being insulting, and succinct, with admirable word brevity.
You’ve let your ego get bruised and lost your cool….and lost this argument as a result.
Fortunately, Grandal won the game anyway, so the question is irrelevant.
May today have been the last time any of us watched Brett Anderson in a Dodger uniform!
He didn’t pitch badly. We will see him at least one more time.
Yep, he will eat innings while we rest the rotation for the playoffs… But, he does suck!!!!
Who says Yasmani doesn’t have power from the right side. He says he has more.
he crushed that one! Glad for him
Boy, I took so much heat for endorsing Grandal.
Haters gonna’ hate!
What a night from Grandal!
His elbow must be feeling better now.
Grandal hit a oppo HR left handed, then hit a grand slam right handed!
I believe he has a single tonight too!
Grandal is back!
yes, good point about his elbow. Hopefully he’s healthy
He layed off two pitches in the dirt that he had been chasing against SF.
Puig also laying off bad pitches.
Laid off.
Turner Ward’s doing?
hopefully so! means the man is doing his job
I think it might have been the guy in AAA.
Because Puig thanked him publically.
Magic Number 4. We won the Brett Anderson game, because we, like Triple H, are THAT. DAMN. GOOD.
Bobby
This year is so much more fun!
Anderson lowered his ERA to 15.00. Amazing. I still do not trust the guy. He pitched ok. For a guy who has thrown maybe 7 big league innings, and the offense bailed him out. As for Grandal, I like his power, have always said so, it is his lack of consistency that bothers me and the low BA> But if he is getting hot now, that is a plus. I still think his defense is mediocre. He still has a lot of trouble blocking pitches, but he had a great game at exactly the right time.
I think a lot of the comments directed at the FO concerning Anderson, and Kazmir’s return are based on the frustration of us fans at the FO’s seeming love for these two. Kazmir we are stuck with for 2 more years. Hopefully he finds himself by next spring and becomes if nothing else, more consistent. The dislike for Anderson is pretty much based on his two previous attempts to come back, which were for all to see pretty pathetic. He did do a better job. He also put them in a hole they had to dig out from. The bull pen did their job again, and the offense got fired up and pulled this game out. I also think that a lot of the fans frustration with the starting pitching is because of the revolving door it has become. Last year they had 3 dependable starters the entire season. This year the only starter not affected by the injury bug is Maeda. Everyone else has spent time on the DL. So what we had in spring looks nothing like what we have now. And going into the playoffs, we do not match up well with the other playoff contenders in the starting rotation. Of course the first round we should be ok with Kersh Maeda and Hill, but we will need a 4th starter if we make it to round 2. As far as dissing Colletti’s regime. It was not a failure as Bluto called it. He made do with a bad owner and a budget that was really screwed up, and he got a lot closer to the world series twice than the wonder boys did last year. We will see how this years team does, and if they fall short again fans will once more question the way they do things. And yes, Logan White, Colletti et-al were paid a lot of money and everyone questioned every move they made. Some worked, some did not. Same goes for the FAZ master. Some have worked, some have not, and some we will have to wait on. But The former regime signed some and traded for a lot of the main cogs on this team, so dissing what they did is counter productive, because Gonzo, Turner, Pederson, Seager, Jansen, Kershaw are not here if they do not get them.
You guys bend over backwards to try and rehabilitate Colletti.
Kershaw, Pederson and Seager were all Logan White picks. If you want to credit Colletti for signing them, fine, but that’s hardly yeoman’s work.
Jansen was an un-drafted international player. Again, the scouting staff. But Colletti, I guess signed him. Colletti also signed Kemp and Ethier to albatross internal contracts. Goose and Gander.
For every Turner and Manny external signing there’s Jason Schmidt, Andruw Jones, and Juan Pierre.
For every trade netting Gonzalez, there’s Carl Crawford and Beckett. There’s Edwin Jackson and Carlos Santana.
One more thing, even though I am questioning giving Colletti credit for signing Kershaw et al, Jansen was signed when DePo was GM.
Rehabilitate? What a moronic statement. He was just not as bad as all the haters make him out to be. Yeah, he made some bad signings, and the only way he got Gonzo was taking on Crawford’s contract. But you can go down the list of every GM there has been and you are going to find bad moves and good moves. The best move Buzzie Bavasi ever made was NOT trading Koufax. Who was almost sent to the Yankees for Elston Howard. Colletti if anything was a little too enamored with former players. Hence trading for Greg Maddux twice, and the ill advised signing of Jason Schmidt. But the 2009 Dodgers got to the NLCS and so did the 2013 club, despite losing their best offensive force to injury……( Matt Kemp) and then losing Hanley in the finals. So far all the FAZ master has done is make it to the first round. Yes, it is only the 2nd year and we will have to see how far they get before we judge them. Colletti also suffered from a REALLY bad owner, and the last couple of years absolutely no financial wiggle room. As for the players signed under his watch, well it was his watch and you can bet he had some input on who was drafted. To think otherwise is NUTS> We will have to see how FAZ’s signings go. So far none of them are in the majors. So it will be a few years before we can judge if they draft even half as well as White did. And the jury is still out on his trades and free agent signings. But I know of at least a couple of which absolutely suck…..one is McCarthy and the other is Kazmir. Anderson was ok last year, but a disaster this year. I am not sold on Wood, Norris stunk up the joint. So lets not be so hard on Ned, he did what he could under conditions I doubt you would even know.
I use the term rehabilitate because it’s really hard to find anyone who thinks Colletti has value as a GM above gutter level. Actually, that was true before I found this community because there seem to be quite a few.
I continue to be lost by your logic, because you don’t seem to look at cost the same way I do.
The only way Colletti could get Gonzalez was by taking on Crawford and Beckett. That’s my point! The only way he could get Blake was by trading Santana! That’s also my point. Just because an asset was obtained, the cost cannot be discarded.
We also have to be honest. The Gonzalez deal was a Kasten deal. Colletti did nothing on it. Are you not aware of this?
If you give Colletti credit for Logan White’s signings, shouldn’t this front office for their staff’s player signing?
Toles and Blanton are two. They are in the majors. They cost very little. To me, Anderson should never be considered a disaster simply because he was signed for a 2-year deal. Any one or two year deal is a good deal because it has no medium term effect. Ethier, Kemp and Schmidt were (again in my opinion) truly “bad GM” deals because they saddle the organization in multiple ways (on the budget sheet, taking up roster space, impacting youth development.)
If the front office, and I mean ownership takes on the cost, tell me, how the hell is that on the GM?? They accepted the contracts because A. They were trying to win and get to the world series and B. They wanted and felt they desperately needed a star player who was Hispanic. They were trying to build up fan confidence again after the McCourt debacle. Kasten et-al approved the deal, but you can bet Colletti was in on every bit of it. You said Anderson was on a 2 year deal, WRONG. He was on a 1 year deal and as he was a free agent they game him a QA and he accepted it. Dumb move. 15.6 million dollars for ZERO wins, 2 losses and maybe 15 innings when all is said and done. Yeah, they signed Blanton, Toles and a lot more guys who are not in the majors. They also pick up garbage off the waiver wire because they are cheap and they try to plug these slugs into holes, and for the most part none have done anything….remember Nick Tepesch? Who was waived by the 4th organization he has been with this year. Crawford actually contributed to the team when he was healthy, and Beckett won a few games and pitched a no hitter. Punto was a nice addition and won a game or two with his bat. None of the players they traded save James Loney and Rubby DeLaRosa have had any long term success. Blake was an integral part of the team, and Santana does not even catch anymore as he is a defensive night mare. Give and take, you win some you lose some. And up until he got injured in Colorado, Matt Kemp was far and away the best player on this team. He got that contract because he was young and productive, and at the time it was not an outlandish deal. Ethier’s contract was a knee jerk reaction because he was going to be a free agent and at the time he was very productive. You cannot anticipate injuries, I have heard Mark spout that about all FAZ’s signings. I am sure in retrospect if Colletti knew that Kemp was going to crash into a wall and basically make himself half the player he was, he never would have given him that long a deal. As it is, Kemp is hitting .273, 40 points above Grandal, with 33 dingers and 103 Ribbies…..I ‘ll take that from a corner OF anyday……